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	<description>This is a journal, of sorts, of an organic garden in SW Michigan.  "Ut sementem feceris, ita metes: non semper erit aestas."</description>
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		<title>By: Go-to Recipes: Pot Roast &#171; Homemakers Who Work</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2010/02/21/dark-days-week-14/#comment-8634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Go-to Recipes: Pot Roast &#171; Homemakers Who Work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] you get leftovers you can then make into open-faced pot roast sandwiches with gravy; meat pies/pasties/turnovers; shepherd&#8217;s pie; or our personal favorite, hash. We have a meat grinder just for [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you get leftovers you can then make into open-faced pot roast sandwiches with gravy; meat pies/pasties/turnovers; shepherd&#8217;s pie; or our personal favorite, hash. We have a meat grinder just for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2010/02/21/dark-days-week-14/#comment-8566</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hooray for pasties! I&#039;m a slingshot away from the U.P., and I still prefer homemade over any I&#039;ve bought (especially using my own fresh veggies).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray for pasties! I&#8217;m a slingshot away from the U.P., and I still prefer homemade over any I&#8217;ve bought (especially using my own fresh veggies).</p>
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		<title>By: El</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2010/02/21/dark-days-week-14/#comment-8465</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mary!  I confess I didn&#039;t use much of a recipe:  the ones I had googled all said about the same thing, mainly, 1# each chopped (or ground) beef and pork; about 1 cup each of diced onion, carrot, rutabaga, potatoes, salt and pepper being the spices.  Wrapped in a pie crust dough, divided accordingly to fit all the above (and it&#039;s a lot, we ate pasties for days).  Baked for 45 minutes at 375 or so.  (The pastry dough:  3 cups flour, about the equivalent of 1 1/2 sticks of butter, salt.)  *I* added lots of thyme, sage, parsley and savory, and a couple of pinches of curry and paprika.  Good stuff!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mary!  I confess I didn&#8217;t use much of a recipe:  the ones I had googled all said about the same thing, mainly, 1# each chopped (or ground) beef and pork; about 1 cup each of diced onion, carrot, rutabaga, potatoes, salt and pepper being the spices.  Wrapped in a pie crust dough, divided accordingly to fit all the above (and it&#8217;s a lot, we ate pasties for days).  Baked for 45 minutes at 375 or so.  (The pastry dough:  3 cups flour, about the equivalent of 1 1/2 sticks of butter, salt.)  *I* added lots of thyme, sage, parsley and savory, and a couple of pinches of curry and paprika.  Good stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: mary taitt</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2010/02/21/dark-days-week-14/#comment-8464</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mary taitt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been wishing to MAKE some pasties--got a suggestion of a good recipe?  (I understand your family ones are gone?)

I met my husband because of my love for pasties in the UP!

And i am all about ww.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wishing to MAKE some pasties&#8211;got a suggestion of a good recipe?  (I understand your family ones are gone?)</p>
<p>I met my husband because of my love for pasties in the UP!</p>
<p>And i am all about ww.</p>
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		<title>By: MAC</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2010/02/21/dark-days-week-14/#comment-8279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MAC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forgot to mention that the story in Cornwall is that most of the pasty would be the meat/swede/potato (never encountered celery!) and then there would be a wall in the dough and the rest would have a fruit filling... the miner would eat his way to dessert. I never had one like that; think the onion would &quot;travel&quot; a little much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention that the story in Cornwall is that most of the pasty would be the meat/swede/potato (never encountered celery!) and then there would be a wall in the dough and the rest would have a fruit filling&#8230; the miner would eat his way to dessert. I never had one like that; think the onion would &#8220;travel&#8221; a little much.</p>
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		<title>By: MAC</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2010/02/21/dark-days-week-14/#comment-8278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MAC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, yum. I spent a pre-college year in England where my Cornish boyfriend introduced me to Cornwall and The Pasty. Twenty years later, I make pasties throughout the winter for my four children and (not Cornish) husband. Rutabega, yes (we called em &#039;swedes&#039;), onion, meat, potato, and a dash of Worcestershire, salt, pepper, and flour. Sometimes carrot but usually not. Good times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yum. I spent a pre-college year in England where my Cornish boyfriend introduced me to Cornwall and The Pasty. Twenty years later, I make pasties throughout the winter for my four children and (not Cornish) husband. Rutabega, yes (we called em &#8216;swedes&#8217;), onion, meat, potato, and a dash of Worcestershire, salt, pepper, and flour. Sometimes carrot but usually not. Good times.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Days 09/10 - Week #14 Recap (Midwest, West) &#171; (not so) Urban Hennery</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] (Fast Grows the Weeds) embraced the food of her Lake Michigan ancestor&#8217;s and made pasties (short a, I think) for [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2010/02/21/dark-days-week-14/#comment-8271</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool! We&#039;re making these at our April Preserving Traditions workshop. 

And a note for all you out-of-staters: that&#039;s pronounced PASS-tee and there&#039;s no need to giggle when we reminisce about how awesome our moms&#039; were!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! We&#8217;re making these at our April Preserving Traditions workshop. </p>
<p>And a note for all you out-of-staters: that&#8217;s pronounced PASS-tee and there&#8217;s no need to giggle when we reminisce about how awesome our moms&#8217; were!</p>
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		<title>By: El</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sarah, glad I could spur you on to make them.  Hope they turned out tasty...but then again, how could they not? ;)

Sharon, with all your access to lamb and such, these could be right up your alley.  I agree the suet or lard/bacon grease combo might make a tough crust (mine were) but that hardly detracts from the experience.  I think there&#039;s something about the crust:filling ratio that is just so &quot;right.&quot;  Hope you make them soon.

Susy, isn&#039;t it funny?  Sara of a few comments below yours and I have often marveled at the universality of &quot;good food ideas&quot; ergo the turnover in its many forms (dim sum, empanadas, samosas, pasty, etc.) and I am all about good food ideas, especially when they&#039;re fun to make too.  I think it would be wonderful if your dad&#039;s package can make it through customs!  

Now Stefani this is where you get multiple children involved and dole out tasks accordingly.  Assembly-line style, they&#039;re put together in no time flat.  And most recipes work in quantities that would completely suit your family, as it is, ours is eating these things for DAYS and I even gave a couple away!  But I like the kale/chorizo idea, mmm.

Grandmabecker, indeed! Even my Detroit husband enjoys them, though he said he always picked around the rutabagas eating them as a kid.  I wouldn&#039;t let him do that though in front of our girl so he had to suffer through them!

Sara, yeah, I have.  I think it&#039;s quite funny, the contention.  But think about what your average miner&#039;s wife had access to in the U.P., year-round:  potatoes, rutabagas, carrots, meat, flour, lard.  Salt and pepper.  So things like my celery are a spurious recent addition.  Frankly I don&#039;t think you can go far wrong with whatever you put in them, but that could just be me the bread-fiend crust eater talking.

Paula that sounds positively decadent.  I would skip the brown gravy but colcannon and bubble and squeak are two ur-dishes from my childhood...and reason enough I don&#039;t eat a lot of cabbage to this day.  There is something so very...I don&#039;t know, unifying...about covering something in gravy.  It IS one of the ways I am able to make food disappear in this house.

Hiya SE.  Yeah, no yeast needed; it&#039;s basically a pie crust, so...let&#039;s say 1:3 ratio of fat:flour.  I do know crusts intimidate the heck out of people and it&#039;s a pity:  slap a crust on something and it will magically get eaten.  I would imagine your stepdad&#039;s mom was worried about the fat (butter or lard) melting if it was hot, so the weather would be a concern:  the colder the fat, the flakier the crust (in theory anyway).  Hope that helps, but...give it a go!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, glad I could spur you on to make them.  Hope they turned out tasty&#8230;but then again, how could they not? <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sharon, with all your access to lamb and such, these could be right up your alley.  I agree the suet or lard/bacon grease combo might make a tough crust (mine were) but that hardly detracts from the experience.  I think there&#8217;s something about the crust:filling ratio that is just so &#8220;right.&#8221;  Hope you make them soon.</p>
<p>Susy, isn&#8217;t it funny?  Sara of a few comments below yours and I have often marveled at the universality of &#8220;good food ideas&#8221; ergo the turnover in its many forms (dim sum, empanadas, samosas, pasty, etc.) and I am all about good food ideas, especially when they&#8217;re fun to make too.  I think it would be wonderful if your dad&#8217;s package can make it through customs!  </p>
<p>Now Stefani this is where you get multiple children involved and dole out tasks accordingly.  Assembly-line style, they&#8217;re put together in no time flat.  And most recipes work in quantities that would completely suit your family, as it is, ours is eating these things for DAYS and I even gave a couple away!  But I like the kale/chorizo idea, mmm.</p>
<p>Grandmabecker, indeed! Even my Detroit husband enjoys them, though he said he always picked around the rutabagas eating them as a kid.  I wouldn&#8217;t let him do that though in front of our girl so he had to suffer through them!</p>
<p>Sara, yeah, I have.  I think it&#8217;s quite funny, the contention.  But think about what your average miner&#8217;s wife had access to in the U.P., year-round:  potatoes, rutabagas, carrots, meat, flour, lard.  Salt and pepper.  So things like my celery are a spurious recent addition.  Frankly I don&#8217;t think you can go far wrong with whatever you put in them, but that could just be me the bread-fiend crust eater talking.</p>
<p>Paula that sounds positively decadent.  I would skip the brown gravy but colcannon and bubble and squeak are two ur-dishes from my childhood&#8230;and reason enough I don&#8217;t eat a lot of cabbage to this day.  There is something so very&#8230;I don&#8217;t know, unifying&#8230;about covering something in gravy.  It IS one of the ways I am able to make food disappear in this house.</p>
<p>Hiya SE.  Yeah, no yeast needed; it&#8217;s basically a pie crust, so&#8230;let&#8217;s say 1:3 ratio of fat:flour.  I do know crusts intimidate the heck out of people and it&#8217;s a pity:  slap a crust on something and it will magically get eaten.  I would imagine your stepdad&#8217;s mom was worried about the fat (butter or lard) melting if it was hot, so the weather would be a concern:  the colder the fat, the flakier the crust (in theory anyway).  Hope that helps, but&#8230;give it a go!</p>
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		<title>By: Sustainable Eats</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2010/02/21/dark-days-week-14/#comment-8242</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sustainable Eats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did an internet search for crust a few weeks back because I remember eating this as a kid on vacation.  My stepdad&#039;s mom was very particular about the weather when she made them and very proud of them.

I saw a lot of recipes for a yeast based dough but that didn&#039;t seem right.  Is this basically a pie crust?  There was everything you can imagine online but that doesn&#039;t give me the true local lore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did an internet search for crust a few weeks back because I remember eating this as a kid on vacation.  My stepdad&#8217;s mom was very particular about the weather when she made them and very proud of them.</p>
<p>I saw a lot of recipes for a yeast based dough but that didn&#8217;t seem right.  Is this basically a pie crust?  There was everything you can imagine online but that doesn&#8217;t give me the true local lore.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 03:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I once had a pasty in a so-called English pub (state-side) that was covered in brown gravy. They also served it with a splat of Colcannon mash, which I&#039;d never heard of before, much less tasted it.  Not exactly tidy for a lunch pail, but man! was it good!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once had a pasty in a so-called English pub (state-side) that was covered in brown gravy. They also served it with a splat of Colcannon mash, which I&#8217;d never heard of before, much less tasted it.  Not exactly tidy for a lunch pail, but man! was it good!</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have a Cornish-settled town near here too that sells a lot of pasties.  Ever do an internet search for recipes?  They generate the most contentious comments about authenticity!  It&#039;s not as if every miner&#039;s wife probably made them a little differently...and I bet they varied to use up leftovers a lot of the time too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a Cornish-settled town near here too that sells a lot of pasties.  Ever do an internet search for recipes?  They generate the most contentious comments about authenticity!  It&#8217;s not as if every miner&#8217;s wife probably made them a little differently&#8230;and I bet they varied to use up leftovers a lot of the time too.</p>
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		<title>By: grandmabecker</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We love them!!  I think most Michiganders love them!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We love them!!  I think most Michiganders love them!</p>
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		<title>By: stefaneener</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love everything in turnovers. They&#039;re just such work. I like them with curried potatoes and lamb, or calzone with sausage and kale, or spinach and feta. . . anything, really.

And then any leftover pastry with berries inside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love everything in turnovers. They&#8217;re just such work. I like them with curried potatoes and lamb, or calzone with sausage and kale, or spinach and feta. . . anything, really.</p>
<p>And then any leftover pastry with berries inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Chiot's Run</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chiot's Run]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too funny, we eat these in Colombia, although the dough is corn based, kind of like a really thick corn tortilla (only better, it&#039;s precooked corn flour).  We call them empanadas.  We&#039;ve been enjoying these filled with spicy venison mixed with rice.  MMMMM.  

The corn flour however isn&#039;t really local.  I do have my dad bring it up for me from Colombia when he comes, so it&#039;s local to him (does that count?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too funny, we eat these in Colombia, although the dough is corn based, kind of like a really thick corn tortilla (only better, it&#8217;s precooked corn flour).  We call them empanadas.  We&#8217;ve been enjoying these filled with spicy venison mixed with rice.  MMMMM.  </p>
<p>The corn flour however isn&#8217;t really local.  I do have my dad bring it up for me from Colombia when he comes, so it&#8217;s local to him (does that count?).</p>
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