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		<title>By: El</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suzy, I hope your feast was enjoyable.  (I am also really happy to learn someone else has tried to downsize the meal:  I like affirmation that I am not crazy.)  Wow, potluck!  I should try that sometime, sounds like lots less work.  Glad to hear yours was mostly local, too.  

Stef, I hope all was festive and fun with Sis and families.  I had my mom help in the kitchen a bit this time: it was actually kind of nice to sub out some of the prep work, plus, we could gossip.  Maybe that&#039;s what it is mainly about:  gossip and kinship.  I could do ravioli on Thanksgiving, surely.  Hope lots of your homegrown wonderful stuff ended up on your tables.

Emily, hope you found some good cranberries.  The UP also grows them, but this place does both bog and highbush cranberries.  Maybe next year.  And...you could put a word in with your co-op; I know they sell them at People&#039;s Co-Op in Kzoo so why not AA too.

Heather, glad to hear yours was scaled down and local, too.  I wonder.  It&#039;s kind of a chicken-or-egg thing:  does a meal become scaled-down because you have to source locally, or does sourcing locally lead to less dishes at the big feast?  I don&#039;t know; I will take the fresh local food any day though.  Taay-steee!

Ohmygosh Andrea, flying with a turkey!  Yeah I suppose you could knock out the carbon footprint advantage of a local bird by packing it into your carry-on, but heck, I am sure it was delicious, right?  Hah.  And that&#039;s the point:  this kind of food tastes better than something with a plastic pop-up stick in it telling you it&#039;s cooked.

Pamela, indeed.  We&#039;re all so thankful, none moreso than me.

Sara, you&#039;re quite right:  it&#039;s one of the things I have the hardest time modeling for the parents at our daughter&#039;s school:  1.  food is important but 2. food is really immensely enjoyable, not some onerous task.  And indeed you get an &quot;attagirl&quot; if you make something from scratch and goodness you&#039;ll get a gold star if you source it from the farmer&#039;s market, and let&#039;s not even spook them by thinking they need to grow it too.  Baby steps.  But: it&#039;s important to start somewhere.  Let&#039;s start with changing the idea that eating is a burden best done quickly with the fastest thing you can find.

CC, hope yours was great!  I am sure yours was:  did you try cornbread stuffing?

Paula!  How wonderful:  Your SIL sounds like a kindred spirit.  And my gosh that dumpling sounds wonderfully decadent.  Hope your red cabbage thing turned out as well...happy leftovers!

Sharon, indeed.  And therefore we SHOULD be really thankful.  I love the light of November, when it actually shows up...you&#039;re reminding me of the chill of VT at this time of year, brr, may as well turn on the stove, right?  Happy holiday.

John, thanks for identifying Jupiter!  I knew it was a planet but had no idea which one.  Cornbread sausage stuffing indeed sounds delightful.  I heard one person say that people are divided into two camps: those who love the turkey, those who love everything else.  I agree the turkey is special but is there anything more special than stuffing?  I don&#039;t think so!

MC, hope your meal was quite lovely!  I am sure it was.

Sarah, there IS that, isn&#039;t there.  I don&#039;t &quot;have&quot; to think about cooking for a few days now.  But:  I will probably cook nonetheless, I love it so.

Selina, a place just north of us, called DeGrandchamp&#039;s.  See my comment above to Emily for the link. 

Nada!  How fun that you&#039;ve ordered a bird for your Christmas feast.  The bird is best cooked on a rack of some kind to keep it out of the drippings.  My tip, always works:  I flip the bird 3 times during cooking (spacing the flippings equally during the cooking time, more or less).  Start on its back, flip to the breast, end on its back; the breast meat doesn&#039;t dry that way.  You might need the help of someone to do this.  I always take it out of the oven to turn it.  Though it does sound funny to be sweating at Christmas, but then, I am showing my northern hemisphere bias!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzy, I hope your feast was enjoyable.  (I am also really happy to learn someone else has tried to downsize the meal:  I like affirmation that I am not crazy.)  Wow, potluck!  I should try that sometime, sounds like lots less work.  Glad to hear yours was mostly local, too.  </p>
<p>Stef, I hope all was festive and fun with Sis and families.  I had my mom help in the kitchen a bit this time: it was actually kind of nice to sub out some of the prep work, plus, we could gossip.  Maybe that&#8217;s what it is mainly about:  gossip and kinship.  I could do ravioli on Thanksgiving, surely.  Hope lots of your homegrown wonderful stuff ended up on your tables.</p>
<p>Emily, hope you found some good cranberries.  The UP also grows them, but this place does both bog and highbush cranberries.  Maybe next year.  And&#8230;you could put a word in with your co-op; I know they sell them at People&#8217;s Co-Op in Kzoo so why not AA too.</p>
<p>Heather, glad to hear yours was scaled down and local, too.  I wonder.  It&#8217;s kind of a chicken-or-egg thing:  does a meal become scaled-down because you have to source locally, or does sourcing locally lead to less dishes at the big feast?  I don&#8217;t know; I will take the fresh local food any day though.  Taay-steee!</p>
<p>Ohmygosh Andrea, flying with a turkey!  Yeah I suppose you could knock out the carbon footprint advantage of a local bird by packing it into your carry-on, but heck, I am sure it was delicious, right?  Hah.  And that&#8217;s the point:  this kind of food tastes better than something with a plastic pop-up stick in it telling you it&#8217;s cooked.</p>
<p>Pamela, indeed.  We&#8217;re all so thankful, none moreso than me.</p>
<p>Sara, you&#8217;re quite right:  it&#8217;s one of the things I have the hardest time modeling for the parents at our daughter&#8217;s school:  1.  food is important but 2. food is really immensely enjoyable, not some onerous task.  And indeed you get an &#8220;attagirl&#8221; if you make something from scratch and goodness you&#8217;ll get a gold star if you source it from the farmer&#8217;s market, and let&#8217;s not even spook them by thinking they need to grow it too.  Baby steps.  But: it&#8217;s important to start somewhere.  Let&#8217;s start with changing the idea that eating is a burden best done quickly with the fastest thing you can find.</p>
<p>CC, hope yours was great!  I am sure yours was:  did you try cornbread stuffing?</p>
<p>Paula!  How wonderful:  Your SIL sounds like a kindred spirit.  And my gosh that dumpling sounds wonderfully decadent.  Hope your red cabbage thing turned out as well&#8230;happy leftovers!</p>
<p>Sharon, indeed.  And therefore we SHOULD be really thankful.  I love the light of November, when it actually shows up&#8230;you&#8217;re reminding me of the chill of VT at this time of year, brr, may as well turn on the stove, right?  Happy holiday.</p>
<p>John, thanks for identifying Jupiter!  I knew it was a planet but had no idea which one.  Cornbread sausage stuffing indeed sounds delightful.  I heard one person say that people are divided into two camps: those who love the turkey, those who love everything else.  I agree the turkey is special but is there anything more special than stuffing?  I don&#8217;t think so!</p>
<p>MC, hope your meal was quite lovely!  I am sure it was.</p>
<p>Sarah, there IS that, isn&#8217;t there.  I don&#8217;t &#8220;have&#8221; to think about cooking for a few days now.  But:  I will probably cook nonetheless, I love it so.</p>
<p>Selina, a place just north of us, called DeGrandchamp&#8217;s.  See my comment above to Emily for the link. </p>
<p>Nada!  How fun that you&#8217;ve ordered a bird for your Christmas feast.  The bird is best cooked on a rack of some kind to keep it out of the drippings.  My tip, always works:  I flip the bird 3 times during cooking (spacing the flippings equally during the cooking time, more or less).  Start on its back, flip to the breast, end on its back; the breast meat doesn&#8217;t dry that way.  You might need the help of someone to do this.  I always take it out of the oven to turn it.  Though it does sound funny to be sweating at Christmas, but then, I am showing my northern hemisphere bias!</p>
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		<title>By: Nada</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any turkey roasting tips for this newbie?  We&#039;ve ordered one (heritage breed and humanely raised and vaguely local) for Christmas and I&#039;m already stressing about the dry breast not cooked enough thigh scenario?  I&#039;m more a fish/seafood/mango/cherrries Xmas gal (which works well for our hot summer holidays) but I thought I&#039;d go for something more trad. this year.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving!  It sounds like it will be great.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any turkey roasting tips for this newbie?  We&#8217;ve ordered one (heritage breed and humanely raised and vaguely local) for Christmas and I&#8217;m already stressing about the dry breast not cooked enough thigh scenario?  I&#8217;m more a fish/seafood/mango/cherrries Xmas gal (which works well for our hot summer holidays) but I thought I&#8217;d go for something more trad. this year.</p>
<p>Enjoy your Thanksgiving!  It sounds like it will be great.</p>
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		<title>By: Selina</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[where do you get your cranberries from?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where do you get your cranberries from?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s lots of cooking and baking for the big meal but the left- overs mean easy meals for the next couple of days. Yummmm turkey sandwiches, turkey soup...........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s lots of cooking and baking for the big meal but the left- overs mean easy meals for the next couple of days. Yummmm turkey sandwiches, turkey soup&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: El</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MC, that&#039;s the big problem for me.  I mean, all the food is great, but...it&#039;s not really super-special, being bogged down as it is by tradition.  You can only sex up mashed potatoes so much, even with the local neufchatel and our garlic...and the gravy pan, too, gets deglazed with some local sherry but it&#039;s STILL just gravy.  I think what&#039;s special about the occasion is it&#039;s always &quot;I can&#039;t eat another bite,&quot; but then you pile your plate up AGAIN and you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MC, that&#8217;s the big problem for me.  I mean, all the food is great, but&#8230;it&#8217;s not really super-special, being bogged down as it is by tradition.  You can only sex up mashed potatoes so much, even with the local neufchatel and our garlic&#8230;and the gravy pan, too, gets deglazed with some local sherry but it&#8217;s STILL just gravy.  I think what&#8217;s special about the occasion is it&#8217;s always &#8220;I can&#8217;t eat another bite,&#8221; but then you pile your plate up AGAIN and you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mangochild</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have 3 people too for the meal, so are also very low-key in terms of size.  But it almost seems a bit harder to make the dishes &quot;special&quot;/distinct.  Do you find that? How do you set Thanksgiving meals apart?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have 3 people too for the meal, so are also very low-key in terms of size.  But it almost seems a bit harder to make the dishes &#8220;special&#8221;/distinct.  Do you find that? How do you set Thanksgiving meals apart?</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Abel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way that is a great pic with the Turkey right at dusk.Jupiter hanging up on the left next to a new moon and the bird on a roof makes it a really  really nice pic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way that is a great pic with the Turkey right at dusk.Jupiter hanging up on the left next to a new moon and the bird on a roof makes it a really  really nice pic.</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Abel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to have my pork sausage stuffing and mashed Butternut Squash.This year I sent back two squash from a farm stand in Naples NY in my luggage.But I bought my bird at Trader Joe&#039;s.I think for meat one has to travel a ways out of LA to find local though we have some nice farmers markets in Santa Monica and I&#039;m still getting tomatoes from out back of our building.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to have my pork sausage stuffing and mashed Butternut Squash.This year I sent back two squash from a farm stand in Naples NY in my luggage.But I bought my bird at Trader Joe&#8217;s.I think for meat one has to travel a ways out of LA to find local though we have some nice farmers markets in Santa Monica and I&#8217;m still getting tomatoes from out back of our building.</p>
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		<title>By: sharon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know how many years ago I realized that Thanksgiving was the one holiday i could totally dig. Lovely sere November stick season. Ghosts, then and now. How long does it take us to realize that we live by other deaths?
That photo could be the symbol of the year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how many years ago I realized that Thanksgiving was the one holiday i could totally dig. Lovely sere November stick season. Ghosts, then and now. How long does it take us to realize that we live by other deaths?<br />
That photo could be the symbol of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great picture! We&#039;re heading to my husband&#039;s sister&#039;s house. Ever since she read Michael Pollan&#039;s The Omnivore&#039;s Dilemma, whatever is brought has to be either homegrown, locally foraged or locally hunted.   Since most of this last year was spent on the house and not the garden, the best I can do is salsa verde from my tomatillos (not exactly Thanksgiving fare) and a jar of tomato sauce.  But my husband is bringing one of his homemade breads, and I&#039;m bringing a big German napkin dumpling made from leftovers of his bread, which we&#039;ll slice up and fry in butter to go under the gravy, and then I&#039;m supposed to make my red cabbage with a bunch of Susie&#039;s red cabbages. I think the turkey is going to be one of hers, although she has one tom that is several years old because she missed doing him in the first year and then got attached to him.  I can&#039;t wait, though. I love Thanksgiving!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great picture! We&#8217;re heading to my husband&#8217;s sister&#8217;s house. Ever since she read Michael Pollan&#8217;s The Omnivore&#8217;s Dilemma, whatever is brought has to be either homegrown, locally foraged or locally hunted.   Since most of this last year was spent on the house and not the garden, the best I can do is salsa verde from my tomatillos (not exactly Thanksgiving fare) and a jar of tomato sauce.  But my husband is bringing one of his homemade breads, and I&#8217;m bringing a big German napkin dumpling made from leftovers of his bread, which we&#8217;ll slice up and fry in butter to go under the gravy, and then I&#8217;m supposed to make my red cabbage with a bunch of Susie&#8217;s red cabbages. I think the turkey is going to be one of hers, although she has one tom that is several years old because she missed doing him in the first year and then got attached to him.  I can&#8217;t wait, though. I love Thanksgiving!!</p>
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		<title>By: cookiecrumb</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bless the birdie.
I can&#039;t believe how local you are able to manage this feast.
Have a wonderful Thanksgiving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bless the birdie.<br />
I can&#8217;t believe how local you are able to manage this feast.<br />
Have a wonderful Thanksgiving.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aww, what a bittersweet photo.  I love it.

We&#039;re having guests that don&#039;t particularly care for food (eat to live types, he) and I had to explain that we LIKE to cook a big meal, it&#039;s not something we&#039;re doing out of a sense of duty.

So while it&#039;s going to be mostly local by default, I&#039;m not stressing about the percentages--we&#039;re aiming more at incorporating into our daily lives.  And I think the example we&#039;re setting for the company will be a bit overwhelming as it is ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, what a bittersweet photo.  I love it.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re having guests that don&#8217;t particularly care for food (eat to live types, he) and I had to explain that we LIKE to cook a big meal, it&#8217;s not something we&#8217;re doing out of a sense of duty.</p>
<p>So while it&#8217;s going to be mostly local by default, I&#8217;m not stressing about the percentages&#8211;we&#8217;re aiming more at incorporating into our daily lives.  And I think the example we&#8217;re setting for the company will be a bit overwhelming as it is <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: El</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.degrandchamps.com/cranberries.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DeGrandchamp&#039;s&lt;/a&gt;, Emily.  They&#039;re south of South Haven, and they ship!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.degrandchamps.com/cranberries.htm" rel="nofollow">DeGrandchamp&#8217;s</a>, Emily.  They&#8217;re south of South Haven, and they ship!</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bummer for the bird.]]></description>
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		<title>By: andrea</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another food-mad soul here.  We will be having a pretty local meal, too.  Here is the crazy part: we have to travel to visit family this year, so the meal will be local to us, but not to where we are dining!  Yes, we are flying with a turkey and most of our veggies.  Maybe this is over the edge, but we&#039;ll see!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another food-mad soul here.  We will be having a pretty local meal, too.  Here is the crazy part: we have to travel to visit family this year, so the meal will be local to us, but not to where we are dining!  Yes, we are flying with a turkey and most of our veggies.  Maybe this is over the edge, but we&#8217;ll see!</p>
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