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	<title>Comments on: On rare and endangered foods, and vanishing food traditions</title>
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		<title>By: El</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2008/07/15/on-rare-and-endangered-foods-and-vanishing-food-traditions/#comment-3224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Angie, well, just last week the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/magazine/13food-t-001.html?_r=1&amp;ref=magazine&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NYTimes mag had a feature on women farmers&lt;/a&gt;, usually second-career types.  Not quite us, but getting closer!

Hi Laura.  I know exactly what you mean!  I just think a little moral bullying from what Bush calls his bully pulpit wouldn&#039;t hurt at all regarding saving a little gasoline.  Yeah he said in &#039;06 that we were &quot;addicted to oil,&quot; then he jets off and talks to some Saudi Arabian princes about keeping the tap on full.  (They demurred, they know low supply = high oil prices, and that can&#039;t hurt them.)  Our problem of course is that most of what runs our lives is laughably cheap (gas, food, electricity) so it&#039;s allowed us to spend our money on unimportant things (cell phones, cable) that we think we&#039;re entitled to have.  And dang, if we have to choose between filling the tank and cable then we&#039;ll stay home and eat Ramen noodles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angie, well, just last week the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/magazine/13food-t-001.html?_r=1&amp;ref=magazine&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">NYTimes mag had a feature on women farmers</a>, usually second-career types.  Not quite us, but getting closer!</p>
<p>Hi Laura.  I know exactly what you mean!  I just think a little moral bullying from what Bush calls his bully pulpit wouldn&#8217;t hurt at all regarding saving a little gasoline.  Yeah he said in &#8217;06 that we were &#8220;addicted to oil,&#8221; then he jets off and talks to some Saudi Arabian princes about keeping the tap on full.  (They demurred, they know low supply = high oil prices, and that can&#8217;t hurt them.)  Our problem of course is that most of what runs our lives is laughably cheap (gas, food, electricity) so it&#8217;s allowed us to spend our money on unimportant things (cell phones, cable) that we think we&#8217;re entitled to have.  And dang, if we have to choose between filling the tank and cable then we&#8217;ll stay home and eat Ramen noodles.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura H</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2008/07/15/on-rare-and-endangered-foods-and-vanishing-food-traditions/#comment-3221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi I love reading your blog:)and thanks for all the tips and info keep it coming.. I have to say I understand the frustration of conservation.  However, it is going to take high energy costs and food shortages and all the extremes to get people to conserve.  Its upsetting but there are to many people out there who are uneducated or who choose not to believe what is coming down the pipe.. I do not want to particularly drive a car that I have to pay 10$ a gallon for gas... (I would like a non gas burning choice) but I do want people to start to conserve.  I think that hight gas prices are going to ultimatly be a good thing when it comes to waking up the American public.. It is so horrifying  that the almighty dollar is what brings about change.  But it is true.. the public &quot;buys&quot; in to what ever it is.. and consumerism is what is the driving force.. It is sad but its true.. the only way that a majority of people will change is due to the fiscal affect on his or her family..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I love reading your blog:)and thanks for all the tips and info keep it coming.. I have to say I understand the frustration of conservation.  However, it is going to take high energy costs and food shortages and all the extremes to get people to conserve.  Its upsetting but there are to many people out there who are uneducated or who choose not to believe what is coming down the pipe.. I do not want to particularly drive a car that I have to pay 10$ a gallon for gas&#8230; (I would like a non gas burning choice) but I do want people to start to conserve.  I think that hight gas prices are going to ultimatly be a good thing when it comes to waking up the American public.. It is so horrifying  that the almighty dollar is what brings about change.  But it is true.. the public &#8220;buys&#8221; in to what ever it is.. and consumerism is what is the driving force.. It is sad but its true.. the only way that a majority of people will change is due to the fiscal affect on his or her family..</p>
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		<title>By: farm mom</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2008/07/15/on-rare-and-endangered-foods-and-vanishing-food-traditions/#comment-3195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[farm mom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C&#039;mon El! Don&#039;t you want to be cool?! Ha! Somehow, I just cannot imagine our type ever being considered the &quot;in crowd&quot;....but I still wanna save all of those barnyard animals from extinction....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon El! Don&#8217;t you want to be cool?! Ha! Somehow, I just cannot imagine our type ever being considered the &#8220;in crowd&#8221;&#8230;.but I still wanna save all of those barnyard animals from extinction&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: El</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2008/07/15/on-rare-and-endangered-foods-and-vanishing-food-traditions/#comment-3194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jules.  Drive 55 is already making a comeback here, as Gov. Jennifer Granholm has proposed moving the speed limit back FOR conservation&#039;s sake.  Of course we have a completely troglodytic legislature so it won&#039;t work (I think Michigan was one of the first to go to 70 in the first place, home of the car that it is) but at least she&#039;s trying.  And I do think higher gas prices (for whatever reason they&#039;re higher, including tax structure as is the case in Europe) is a backhanded way toward conservation.  We saw an ad on TV for Acura that pitched the car as &quot;a fun way to drive to get your lunch&quot; through a drive-thru.  Come ON.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jules.  Drive 55 is already making a comeback here, as Gov. Jennifer Granholm has proposed moving the speed limit back FOR conservation&#8217;s sake.  Of course we have a completely troglodytic legislature so it won&#8217;t work (I think Michigan was one of the first to go to 70 in the first place, home of the car that it is) but at least she&#8217;s trying.  And I do think higher gas prices (for whatever reason they&#8217;re higher, including tax structure as is the case in Europe) is a backhanded way toward conservation.  We saw an ad on TV for Acura that pitched the car as &#8220;a fun way to drive to get your lunch&#8221; through a drive-thru.  Come ON.</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[El, you know, I thought the very same thing yesterday.  The news was discussing folks wanting smaller cars and the manufacturers were trying to figure out how to get them made. They were also discussing Jimmy Carter&#039;s conservation efforts in the 70&#039;s and comparing them to today&#039;s crisis.  It struck me that a bunch of folks don&#039;t want smaller cars to conserve, but they want smaller cars so they can still do the same as they have been doing, only saving THEMSELVES money, ie not using as much gas.  (I wondered when &#039;drive 55&#039; would make a comeback)  They don&#039;t really want to cut back on driving, or want to conserve, they just don&#039;t want to have to spend all their money on gas.  Conservation actually probably never crosses their minds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El, you know, I thought the very same thing yesterday.  The news was discussing folks wanting smaller cars and the manufacturers were trying to figure out how to get them made. They were also discussing Jimmy Carter&#8217;s conservation efforts in the 70&#8242;s and comparing them to today&#8217;s crisis.  It struck me that a bunch of folks don&#8217;t want smaller cars to conserve, but they want smaller cars so they can still do the same as they have been doing, only saving THEMSELVES money, ie not using as much gas.  (I wondered when &#8216;drive 55&#8242; would make a comeback)  They don&#8217;t really want to cut back on driving, or want to conserve, they just don&#8217;t want to have to spend all their money on gas.  Conservation actually probably never crosses their minds.</p>
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		<title>By: El</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2008/07/15/on-rare-and-endangered-foods-and-vanishing-food-traditions/#comment-3191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CC:  Exactamundo.  I did pause when I saw a recipe for these tiny squirrels.  One, they&#039;re tiny.  Two, they&#039;re squirrels (it&#039;s not like they travel in herds:  how does one get enough for a family-sized meal?).  There was a chapter in there about the passenger pigeon.  Wow, do they look like mourning doves, only colorful.  Then, I got it.  Habitat loss for these squirrels (who prefer old-growth) is a huge deal, and their very existence is questioned.

Katie and Pamela:  It&#039;s not that people shouldn&#039;t be taking these little steps (as they should).  People should be taking big ones, and conservation in some form should at least be MENTIONED somewhere by our government, but no, let&#039;s go drill offshore for more oil so we can cart our canvas bags around in our SUVs.  I swear this twists my undies in a bunch and I just am spitting mad all day long.  We really do need to conserve, not buy, our way into a new way of being.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC:  Exactamundo.  I did pause when I saw a recipe for these tiny squirrels.  One, they&#8217;re tiny.  Two, they&#8217;re squirrels (it&#8217;s not like they travel in herds:  how does one get enough for a family-sized meal?).  There was a chapter in there about the passenger pigeon.  Wow, do they look like mourning doves, only colorful.  Then, I got it.  Habitat loss for these squirrels (who prefer old-growth) is a huge deal, and their very existence is questioned.</p>
<p>Katie and Pamela:  It&#8217;s not that people shouldn&#8217;t be taking these little steps (as they should).  People should be taking big ones, and conservation in some form should at least be MENTIONED somewhere by our government, but no, let&#8217;s go drill offshore for more oil so we can cart our canvas bags around in our SUVs.  I swear this twists my undies in a bunch and I just am spitting mad all day long.  We really do need to conserve, not buy, our way into a new way of being.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2008/07/15/on-rare-and-endangered-foods-and-vanishing-food-traditions/#comment-3190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe that we can  have too many people taking these things seriously.   Every canvas bag, funky lightbulb and solar panel means someone is making an effort to do the right thing for our community...... and talking about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that we can  have too many people taking these things seriously.   Every canvas bag, funky lightbulb and solar panel means someone is making an effort to do the right thing for our community&#8230;&#8230; and talking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[El, sounds like a wonderful book!  I am going to my library&#039;s website right now.  

I hear you about the race to &quot;acquire&quot; green goods.  I don&#039;t think that is the answer either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El, sounds like a wonderful book!  I am going to my library&#8217;s website right now.  </p>
<p>I hear you about the race to &#8220;acquire&#8221; green goods.  I don&#8217;t think that is the answer either.</p>
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		<title>By: cookiecrumb</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2008/07/15/on-rare-and-endangered-foods-and-vanishing-food-traditions/#comment-3186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cookiecrumb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You meant Stouffer&#039;s Carolina northern flying squirrel, right? OK, then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You meant Stouffer&#8217;s Carolina northern flying squirrel, right? OK, then.</p>
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		<title>By: El</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2008/07/15/on-rare-and-endangered-foods-and-vanishing-food-traditions/#comment-3185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mrs. GH:  I should tell you it&#039;s not a story, a narrative.  It&#039;s a list of foods by region, with recipes.  There&#039;s lots of history and really interesting information, but it&#039;s not &quot;one family&#039;s quest for a year,&quot; of which there are dozens to choose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. GH:  I should tell you it&#8217;s not a story, a narrative.  It&#8217;s a list of foods by region, with recipes.  There&#8217;s lots of history and really interesting information, but it&#8217;s not &#8220;one family&#8217;s quest for a year,&#8221; of which there are dozens to choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Greenhands</title>
		<link>http://fastgrowtheweeds.com/2008/07/15/on-rare-and-endangered-foods-and-vanishing-food-traditions/#comment-3184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrs. Greenhands]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like an interesting book!  I really loved Animal, Vegetable, Miracle and I&#039;ve been looking for other books in the same vein.  Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like an interesting book!  I really loved Animal, Vegetable, Miracle and I&#8217;ve been looking for other books in the same vein.  Thanks!</p>
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